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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3 and Hotmail Incompatibility?</title>
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	<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/</link>
	<description>Ali Ebrahim on web standards, software developement, technology, politics and law.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ripper007</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-4294</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripper007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>using the IE add-on in FF3 is not a true fix. 
Try doing that in linux.  

If  your going to use IE-addon in FF3, you might as well just use Internet Explorer.  thats kindof what it is doing. its just opening up a IE window in FireFox 3 tab.  your still using IE. not firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>using the IE add-on in FF3 is not a true fix.<br />
Try doing that in linux.  </p>
<p>If  your going to use IE-addon in FF3, you might as well just use Internet Explorer.  thats kindof what it is doing. its just opening up a IE window in FireFox 3 tab.  your still using IE. not firefox.</p>
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		<title>By: Eurasianman</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>Eurasianman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Installing the IE Tab add-on for FireFox 3 and changing the "rendering engine" allowed me to view Hotmail Full without issues :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Installing the IE Tab add-on for FireFox 3 and changing the &#8220;rendering engine&#8221; allowed me to view Hotmail Full without issues <img src='http://blog.ebrahim.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: shantharam</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>shantharam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried with hotmail also its working properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried with hotmail also its working properly.</p>
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		<title>By: shantharam</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>shantharam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
install IE Tab add-on from firefox website it will render IE compatible websites properly
Link : 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
install IE Tab add-on from firefox website it will render IE compatible websites properly<br />
Link :<br />
<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419</a></p>
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		<title>By: peter scott</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>peter scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a real pain in the ass... seems that with every new version of firefox, ie, hotmail... whatever... the whole internet experience is becoming more complicated, riddled with conflicts and less user friendly. shouldn't it be going in the opposite direction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a real pain in the ass&#8230; seems that with every new version of firefox, ie, hotmail&#8230; whatever&#8230; the whole internet experience is becoming more complicated, riddled with conflicts and less user friendly. shouldn&#8217;t it be going in the opposite direction?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Personally I find it highly surprising that Microsoft haven’t worked out a solution in the last couple of months for this highly visible bug resulting in widespread poor user experience&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why? It's in Microsoft's best interest to perpetuate the idea that using alternative browsers "breaks the internet". This particular issue has been pointed out to them countless times, so it's definitely deliberate.

 - Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Personally I find it highly surprising that Microsoft haven’t worked out a solution in the last couple of months for this highly visible bug resulting in widespread poor user experience</p></blockquote>
<p>Why? It&#8217;s in Microsoft&#8217;s best interest to perpetuate the idea that using alternative browsers &#8220;breaks the internet&#8221;. This particular issue has been pointed out to them countless times, so it&#8217;s definitely deliberate.</p>
<p> - Chris</p>
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		<title>By: aebrahim</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>aebrahim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, although that might work, I'm not interested to try that because as far as I'm concerned, sites should work with browsers without having to fake user agent strings. If they don't, that's a bug for the site administrator to fix, not the end user.

gjph, looks like the bug has been opened in April. Personally I find it highly surprising that Microsoft haven't worked out a solution in the last couple of months for this highly visible bug resulting in widespread poor user experience. It's not as if the Firefox 3.0 betas have not been available for testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, although that might work, I&#8217;m not interested to try that because as far as I&#8217;m concerned, sites should work with browsers without having to fake user agent strings. If they don&#8217;t, that&#8217;s a bug for the site administrator to fix, not the end user.</p>
<p>gjph, looks like the bug has been opened in April. Personally I find it highly surprising that Microsoft haven&#8217;t worked out a solution in the last couple of months for this highly visible bug resulting in widespread poor user experience. It&#8217;s not as if the Firefox 3.0 betas have not been available for testing.</p>
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		<title>By: gjph</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>gjph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427610</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427610" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427610</a></p>
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		<title>By: gatolandia</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>gatolandia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I test with my "hotmail crap account" and get hotmail with a crap interface without  images and the same warning, switch the user agent to IE7 and the images load again but i get a warning of the sieze of the screen( i have set to 800x600).
The problem is the hotmail page wich restrict the browser to IE and the page to a resolution above 800x600</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I test with my &#8220;hotmail crap account&#8221; and get hotmail with a crap interface without  images and the same warning, switch the user agent to IE7 and the images load again but i get a warning of the sieze of the screen( i have set to 800&#215;600).<br />
The problem is the hotmail page wich restrict the browser to IE and the page to a resolution above 800&#215;600</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Buranen</title>
		<link>http://blog.ebrahim.org/2008/06/20/firefox-3-and-hotmail-incompatibility/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Buranen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it work with the "User agent switcher" addon set to IE7?  It could be as simple as hotmail sniffing your browser as suggested and just pushing you to classic even if the other version would work fine.  I'd test, but I don't have a hotmail address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it work with the &#8220;User agent switcher&#8221; addon set to IE7?  It could be as simple as hotmail sniffing your browser as suggested and just pushing you to classic even if the other version would work fine.  I&#8217;d test, but I don&#8217;t have a hotmail address.</p>
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